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John Schoenwalter, Aspen, c. .1970s. Photographer unknown.

John Schoenwalter

September 01, 2022

John Schoenwalter’s documentation of counter-cultural activities in Aspen and Denver spans almost a half-century. During his adolescence, Schoenwalter (1942–2019) was a traveler in search of direction. When we met at his studio in 2017, he recounted his childhood in New York City, where he worked in the family paint business “mixing five-gallon buckets of battleship gray … and lugging fifty-pound buckets … of red lead pigment to the mill.”[i]

I asked him if his father wanted him to take over the family business.

“Oh yes, yes. I graduated as a literature major from the Hebrew University. '63 got my first job in the garment district as a clerk for 75 bucks a week. I traveled across the country one year for a summer, and then another summer I went to Europe, hitchhiked for one month, bought a motorcycle and traveled around for three more months. When I came back, I started thinking I wanted to get away from New York.”

“That was in the early '70s. Bought a Dodge convertible for 500 bucks, put some of my possessions in there, after I told my mother I was moving out of the family business, and moved to Denver. A friend and my old roommate had talked a lot about Colorado, and that's why I came out here. I'd never been here before. I went to two places. Some young woman who had come to New York from Colorado said I should go to Aspen and Red Stone and Marble, which I did. I came back to Denver briefly, went back up to Aspen, rented a house with a guy I didn't know every well. I set up a gallery in the living room.”

Class at The Lower East Side Gallery, Aspen, ca. 1975. John Schoenwalter foreground, far left. Photographer unknown:

in 1972 he relocated his living room gallery to the basement of the Hotel Jerome—the space previously occupied by Cherie Hiser’s Center of the Eye photo workshop: “One of our housemates was a guy named George Peet, who was a teacher at the Center of the Eye photography school, which I'd never heard of before. I never really had a camera. George took me to the Center of the Eye and showed me darkrooms; I'd never seen a darkroom before, it was quite interesting. When the Center of the Eye was asked to move from the Hotel Jerome I went to the owner and I asked if I could rent the space. … I got the space, and people who were living out on the street helped me do demolition and rebuild. There was one guy who had some tools and knew how to use them, so I paid him. And we got a gallery built up.”

He named his space The Lower East Side Gallery because it was on the lower level of the hotel’s east side. There he exhibited painting, ceramics, and crafts, and also hosted workshops, poetry readings, life drawing sessions, and concerts during the summer. Schoenwalter took up photography to market the gallery and document events. The business held its own financially but in 1982 he closed it and moved to Denver, where he became a fixture at cultural events of all kinds.

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Photographing for Life on Capitol Hill, Westword, and Colorado Statesman newspapers gave him access to a full range of the ideological spectrum. As he recalled, “I went to the Kerouac conference in Boulder and stopped a guy on the street; that was William Burroughs. And there were people like Lawrence Ferlinghetti and Gregory Corso, Timothy Leary. I took pictures of all those guys while I was there. They had promoted themselves exceptionally well.”

“One time when I was in New Jersey, back east visiting my family, I heard that Allen Ginsberg and Leroy Jones were reading their poetry in New Jersey. I went out there, so I photographed the two of them. Leroy Jones became Amiri Baraka. Started going to the Mercury Cafe, photographing national acts that would come through. [People like Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen], Leon Redbone, Albert King, Papa John Creach. I would also go to the Botanic Gardens, to their concerts, where I photographed Gerry Mulligan. Union Station had a jazz thing, and I photographed Dizzy Gillespie over there.”

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His work at demonstrations is particularly strong and shows his comfort with extreme situations. As his friend Joel Dallenbach remembers, he liked to get in close and find the heart of the action. One story John told me conveys something of that: He had read how Joel Meyerowitz approached street photography, “And one day in New York during a parade, he thought he saw Cartier-Bresson working the crowd. So he runs into another street photographer, maybe Garry Winogrand or somebody like that, and they both say each of them has seen Cartier-Bresson. So they go back to photographing. And here he is again, Cartier-Bresson, and he photographs a big drunk who starts charging at him. He throws his camera at the guy, and the guy backs off. And he retrieves his camera because it's on a wrist strap and he disappears into the crowd— another myth, developing his mystique.

Well, I found a wrist strap at a yard sale and I put it on my Leica. And one day I got out on my bicycle and started riding down the street. And I flung my camera and held my hand out, and the strap broke and the Leica tumbled down the street. It didn't survive. It wound up with a fractured case and a light leak … so enough of that.”

Denver Mud People, NYC, July 1987.

In the mid-1980s, Schoenwalter accompanied the Denver mud people to New York and made a memorable picture of them on the subway. Mark Sink remembers that, “A wonderful person called Mark Antrobus and I collaborated with a group of artists to be like the mud people we had seen in that great book by Irving Penn. Our first event was in Denver around 1980. We called it “Urban Aboriginal Week.” We started out just wearing cardboard and junk things we found. Then we started making paper pulp helmets and mudding up doing events.

“When I was living in New York in the mid-1980s, the Denver people came and we did Earth Day. We made the front page of the Daily News! Later People magazine. The New York Times picked us up. People were gathering around us, wanted to touch us. The next day we did it in Soho and they pretended we didn't exist. But people loved us at Grand Central Station.”

When I asked John about his influences, he listed William Claxton, Jerry Uelsmann, Ruth Bernhard, Sebastiao Salgado, and Mary Ellen Mark. His mention of Mark prompted another story: “I took her workshop. I traded [a print of hers] for a camera that I had, an old Graflex - Italian, leather-covered pop-up that you look down into. … I picked out a print that was used on the cover of the book that she did, “Ward 81.” Her cover picture was a woman in the bathtub. I got that one. But the one that I loved was a picture that she had taken of Federico Fellini, with a megaphone striding in Cinecittà, where they make the films. Beautiful image. And I like Fellini quite a bit.”

Perhaps his embrace of life’s diversity is best expressed in his late career passion for bird photography, which satisfied his creative needs and also provided an important stream of income. John Schoenwalter passed away after a long illness in 2019. He left his archive in the hands of trusted friends who are seeking a repository for it.

[i] Personal interview, April 2017. All direct quotes are from this interview.


Unless otherwise credited, all photographs by and courtesy of John Schoenwalter.

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Peter de Lory: Aspen, CO, 1969. (After Paul Strand. Ellen Manchester and Alex Sweetman in doorway).

Peter de Lory interview

June 29, 2022

Like my previous subject, Melanie Walker, I first met Peter de Lory in San Francisco during the late 1980s/early 90s, when he was teaching photography at San Jose State University. I knew him at that time for his narrative-based triptychs, which he describes as “a focal point for all my earlier thoughts and sensibilities” (http://www.peterdelory.com/about-face). Much of those thoughts and sensibilities had coalesced in Colorado during the late sixties/mid seventies, studying photography at Center of the Eye in Aspen, at CU Boulder, and at various workshops in the American West. As he describes in our interview, he left Colorado for Idaho in 1976 to direct the Photography Department of the Sun Valley Center for the Arts and Humanities. He has lived in the Pacific Northwest since 1994.

Rupert Jenkins: You grew up near Cape Cod and moved west for undergrad studies at the San Francisco Art Institute, I think.

Peter de Lory:  Yes. I was there from 1967 or ‘68 to 1971. My two brothers had already gone there, and I had visited in 1964 or '65. Also the cultural revolution was there, and I wanted to be part of that for sure. The Art Institute was a very interesting place in itself. Edward Weston had taught there. Ansel Adams ran the program with Minor White, Paul Caponigro was there. Jerry Burchard. It was a pretty hot place for photography on the west coast. John Collier Sr., and Jack Fulton had just shown up. Linda Connor hadn't moved there yet – we were like two ships in the night. I met her just as she was getting ready to teach there. We became close friends.

RJ: And then you went to Aspen, to Center of the Eye?

PdL: In early spring 1969 I had a girlfriend who was at CU Boulder and I visited her there. She had a sister in Aspen. I asked someone what was going on in photography there and they said there’s a man and woman named Cherie Hiser and David Hiser—Cherie Jenkins was her first name—and they’re about to start a school, you should talk to them.

I’d met Cherie at the SPE conference in 1968 in Oakland, and then at Christmas we met again and she invited me [to the workshop]. I went for three summers. I worked in the lab and did these crash courses. I met Minor White, Jerry Uelsmann, Bruce Davidson, Winogrand, the list just goes on and on. The workshops and Aspen, all that vibrancy, people coming in and out, people from different parts of the country, that mixture of people, it was a great time.

Peter de Lory: Cherie Hiser, Center of the Eye, Aspen, 1969.

PdL: Then in 1971 I went to graduate school at CU Boulder (MFA, 1974). I was the second student to graduate from the program—Barbara Jo Revelle was the first. I get to grad school and that fall or spring Minor White called and had me do a whole suite of my work for Aperture—a whole quarter issue while I was still in graduate school (Aperture 17:2, 1973).

Having work in Aperture was something I’d always wanted, but after that I didn’t know what to do. Spring was coming up and I got a call from Cherie saying she was moving to Sun Valley, it’s a cool place, do you want to come up and run the lab, and I said, “Sure.” So I drove up there in my little VW and was there till 1978. Eventually I became director after Cherie. Then I thought, ‘I’ve got to get out of here and do something else.’ I got an NEA grant and just traveled for about six months, then went back to San Francisco eventually.

RJ: You’ve mentioned Minor White a few times. How big an influence was he on you?

PdL: Oh, we were very close. I met him through my brother. We went to his house in Arlington and he immediately looked at my work and said, “Wow, this looks interesting, can I keep these?” I think I’d met him on the fly at Center of the Eye. I didn’t hear back from him until I got back to San Francisco. He said, “I have to think about this, can you send me all the work you’ve done so far?” I said, “Sure, no problem,” then he says, “I want you to be the assistant for me at the workshops in Rochester next summer,” and I said, “Sure.” So, I had a great relationship with him, which is unusual actually [laughs]. He was a very genial guy, very supportive. Also, he picked up the work I had and gave me a show at MIT, and we traded. He was really unbelievably supportive.

RJ: Anyone else who was especially influential on your work?

PdL: Oh, a number of people for various reasons. Minor, Frederick Sommer for sure, Paul Caponigro. He was a student of Minor’s at the Art Institute. Weston of course—clarity of seeing, and Minor was taken by that part of Weston.

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Peter de Lory: Double O Ranch (Once Upon A Time In The West), 1989. Gallery Above: Top L-R: Self Portrait, 1969; Floating, Colorado, 1969; Grottoes Rock, 1970. Bottom L-R: Colorado Rover Shore, 1969; Leg in the Barth, 1971; Grottoes, 1970.

RJ:  Where do you place your triptychs from the late eighties, in terms of the landscape genre?

PdL: Part of my work is based in the social landscape of our culture, you know? The American West, the myths of the West, embracing this place. Photographing to me is taking really strong notice, and really slowing down, looking at what you’re looking at. Minor was perfect at that. A sense of you being there. If I’m in the presence of that, then perhaps my perspective can be transferred to somebody else’s thinking.

RJ: Your image of an arch in Once Upon A Time In The West (1989) has always stayed with me. That’s an iconic symbol of the West.

PdL: At that time I was reading a lot of Wallace Stenger, and a lot of the American West writers: James Welsh, Edward Abbey of course. It came out of that, reading all that and being in the West. The writing would be so fluent. I thought, how could I make my photographs be like writing? I just wanted, in my small way, to dip into the semi-industrial parts of the West, make a dip into that kind of severity and rawness of the land. I wanted a balance between the two, of being a social landscape and a landscape of awe, basically.

RJ:  Some images crop up in different series of yours. You re-use them.

PdL: Yeah, because there’s a continuity of subject, but maybe in a different context. It’s like you’re a singer and you make an album and you put in a couple of older songs with some new ones too—it’s kind of like that. I’ve been photographing this little island, Lopez Island in the San Juan Islands, and I showed my prints at the San Juan Museum with two sculptors and print makers. All the work was very contemplative; it was like taking one long walk, traveling through slowly in a real contemplative way.

I guess the way I look at it is this—when I go to Europe or someplace I can’t photograph very well because I just don’t know the place. This Lopez thing, I just photograph organically, and then about two or three years later I’ll print it. And then it all comes back. … So I call it slow photography. Someone will say “That’s a new triptych,” and I’ll say, “Yes it is,” but I photographed it in 1989. It just didn’t come together until this point.

Peter de Lory: Alex Sweetman & Jay Manis, Center of the Eye, 1969.

RJ: Any last thoughts about Colorado?

PdL: Well, at CU we were pretty isolated in a sense. But Center of the Eye and Cherie, that was incomparable—the timing of that with that culture was just perfect. I can’t tell you how many people I’m in touch with that I knew in Aspen. Cherie pulled a lot of things out of New York through Nathan Lyons, so that created a whole new mixture, an intellectual front that Aspen does not have usually, other than the Aspen Design Conference and those kind of things. It was just a perfect storm of ideas.

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Note: This interview was compiled from a phone interview with Peter de Lory conducted by the author on November 21, 2017. Edited for length and clarity with Peter de Lory in May 2020. All images courtesy/copyright Peter de Lory.


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